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Manning has knee surgery

July 15, 2008

UPDATE July 17, 2008

Update: August 18, 2008
Manning could be practicing next week

Update: August 20, 2008
Manning may not be ready for firts game against The Bears

Manning wanted to keep 2nd surgery from opponents

 

Star quarterback Peyton Manning will miss the start of the Indianapolis Colts' training camp after undergoing minor knee surgery an infected knee bursa.

Manning had been suffering with the problem since February but the 32-year-old began suffering more pain recently and the decision was taken for him to go under the knife to cure the problem.

"The procedure was routine. The Colts' medical staff expects a full and complete return to action," said Colts president Bill Polian.

Manning misses the start of the Colts' training camp on July 25 as Colts begin preparations for a new NFL season.

A six-time selection for the Pro Bowl, Manning has started every one of his 160 career games - a record which will be the longest for an active player in the league unless Brett Favre returns.

The Colts are confident Manning will be fully fit for the start of the new season, but will be looking closely at fifth-season back-up Jim Sorgi just in case


Q: What is an infected knee bursa?

A: On the front of your kneecap, just up underneath the skin, is a small sac called the prepatella bursa. A bursa is a sac made of thin, slippery tissue and is located in multiple places in the body wherever skin, muscles or tendons need to slide over bone, such as the back of your elbow.

The bursa is lubricated with a small amount of fluid inside that helps reduce friction from the sliding parts. The prepatella bursa allows the kneecap to slide freely underneath the skin as you bend and straighten your knee.

When the prepatella bursa is subject to excessive friction, the tissue becomes inflamed and swells, creating a swollen lump on the front of the knee typically about the size of a golf ball, although it can be larger. This is commonly seen in people who work on their knees such as plumbers or carpet layers.

However, when the bursa is subject to direct trauma, such as landing hard on the knee - like being driven to the ground in a sack - the tissue inside the prepatella bursa can suddenly begin to bleed and the bursa will swell up very large, very fast, nearly the size of a grape fruit in some cases. Depending on the size of the bursal swelling and how long it has been present, one consider draining the bursa to remove the swelling or blood that has collected.

Now there is a risk of an infection developing within the bursa due to the collection of blood present. It is usually explained to patients that this pool of blood is full of nutrients and, if any bacteria happens to "set up shop" here, this is a great site for bacteria to multiply and divide, creating an infection. Manning has been through this before.

While Manning attended the University of Tennessee; during his junior year Manning had a similar problem with his knee. He had been bothered the last few games of the season with a painful and swollen bursa and it was considered to have it drained, but was counseled by the head team physician Dr. William Youmans against it.

Youmans felt it would resolve on its own with time and that there was the possibility of it getting infected, which you certainly wouldn't want to do to your star quarterback. So it was left alone.

Manning then traveled to New York to appear on David Letterman and then go to the Heisman Trophy ceremony. While there he saw a local surgeon, who drained it and then, sure enough, it got infected. He came back to Knoxville with his knee swollen up, red and painful to bend. This was about a week before the Citrus Bowl; the Volunteers were slated to play Northwestern. Manning was admitted for IV antibiotics, his infection cleared and the Vols won their bowl game.

Manning developed another infection and underwent surgery this week to remove the bursa and clean out the infection. Because the bursa sits just up underneath the skin, the surgery did not have to enter his knee joint and it is expected Manning will make a quick recovery. It is fully expected that he will return to play at the start of the regular season but would likely see limited duty during the preseason.

Manning has only missed a single play from injury or illness during his entire pro career with the Colts, including playing with a broken jaw and his mouth wired shut.

 


UPDATE
July 17, 2008

Whether Peyton Manning steps on the field for any of the Indianapolis Colts' five preseason games is open for debate, but the team is confident its eight-time Pro Bowl quarterback will be ready when it matters most -- the Sept. 7 regular-season opener in Lucas Oil Stadium against the Chicago Bears.

"That's our expectation," team president Bill Polian said Tuesday afternoon.

The procedure was performed in Indianapolis by Dr. Tom Klootwyk, one of the Colts' orthopedic surgeons.

"Everything went well and the doctors are very confident that everything will go well," Polian said.

The initial prognosis is for Manning to miss between four and six weeks. The Colts report to Terre Haute on July 24 for the start of training camp.


Dungy Expects Peyton & Marvin Back Sooner Than Expected

July 18, 2008 

On the "Waddle and Silvy Show" on ESPN Radio in Chicago, Coach Tony Dungy had a few comments that can make a Colts fan day.

"Marvin's doing great and should be ready to go when training camp opens," said coach Dungy, "He was running pretty well at our offseason workouts and really smiling and feeling good I think for the first time in a while."

But wait!  There's more.

"Peyton's knee surgery was really a minor procedure.  We kind of toyed with the idea of trying to make it through the whole season, and I think he probably could have.  But timing is going to be good for us.  Jim Sorgi will get a lot of work at the first part of training camp, and then I think Peyton will be ready by midway through then we will roll like we always have."

Dungy goes onto say that even if Peyton would miss 5 weeks, he would still have 3 weeks of preseason to get ready.  The dried-out Marvin shooting incident was brought up, and Dungy reiterated that Marvin is not a suspect, and the Philly police has confirmed that with the organization.


Peyton Manning misses Colts Camp 
on doctors orders after knee surgery

July 24, 2008

This was not the way Peyton Manning had envisioned his 11th training camp with the Indianapolis Colts unfolding.

While his teammates spent Thursday unloading duffel bags, foam bed cushions and flat screens for their personal computers to make their dorm rooms at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology as comfortable as possible, the face of the organization was resting - his left knee wrapped and elevated - at his Indianapolis residence.

Manning's involvement in the start of camp was relegated to a conference call to the media room. He is still in the early stages of recovery from July 14 surgery that removed an infected bursa sac from his left knee.

Life went on. Camp went on, even without the team's most indispensable and indestructible player. Manning has started 160 consecutive regular-season games - the longest streak by an active quarterback - and has missed only one play in a regular-season game because of injury.

"I've never missed a practice or a meeting or an organized team activity in my whole career,'' Manning said in his first interview since the surgery, "and I'm certainly disappointed I can't be there with all the guys on the first day of training camp.

"But as the cliche goes: following doctor's orders. I'm in a positive frame of mind and I hope to be up there as soon as the doctors release me.''

The Colts expect the post-surgery recovery time to range from four to six weeks.

Pressed on when he might make the drive across I-70 to Rose-Hulman, Manning paused briefly.

"It could be as soon as (today), it could be sometime next week,'' he said. "I've really tried to be patient and positive.''

A team doctor visits Manning daily to monitor the knee, which still is experiencing swelling. The knee is compressed, immobilized and elevated as much as possible. Manning, who generally uses crutches to navigate around his house, had an IV line inserted in his left arm so antibiotics can be administered, and a tube in his left knee to aid in occasional draining.

Once the swelling is under control and the doctor is convinced there is no risk of further infection, Manning should be allowed to report to camp. But even then he'll be ordered to take it easy for an undetermined time.

The Colts remain confident Manning will return in time to get enough work during the preseason to be ready for the Sept. 7 regular-season opener against the Chicago Bears in Lucas Oil Stadium.

Team president Bill Polian reiterated that Manning's situation was "a short-term thing. It's not long term."

Backup quarterback Jim Sorgi, who will run the No. 1 offense while Manning mends, smiled when he considered the possibility of Manning not being ready for the Bears.

"C'mon, we all know Peyton,'' Sorgi said. "The first game in the new stadium, I mean

. . . in my mind he's going to be there.''

Manning, though, made it clear he will need some level of work on the practice field before stepping on the field for the regular season. The Colts' passing game relies on timing, and that is honed on the practice field.

"To think you can just parachute in there on Sunday into the new stadium on the day of the Bears game and think you're ready to go is ridiculous,'' Manning said. "Obviously I'm going to need some time. I'm going to want some time.''

Manning's preseason schedule became disrupted when he woke up in New Orleans on July 14, the day after his family's passing academy in Louisiana concluded. He had been receiving treatment for several months to deal with swelling in his left knee, but that morning he experienced "severe pain'' in the joint. Even walking was difficult.

He immediately returned to Indianapolis and underwent surgery.

"It really happened pretty fast. I really didn't see it coming,'' Manning said. "There's never a good time to have surgery, but hopefully ..... we caught it early enough.''

And if he is not ready to go by Sept. 7?

"I can play quarterback if needed," volunteered wide receiver Reggie Wayne.


Peyton Manning Healing Nicely

The Tribune Star reports three days into training camp, Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning continues to recover from surgery to remove an infected bursa sac in his left knee. While he wouldn't divulge exactly where Manning is convalescing, Colts HC Tony Dungy said Monday that the two-time league MVP appears to be healing nicely. "He is doing fine. We're still trying to keep him immobile. That's the biggest fight. I think the farther away from camp we can keep him, the better chance we have of keeping him immobilized," Dungy said. "I'm not at liberty to say where he is at this point, but he is immobile. I can tell you that," he joked. The Colts' coach laughed off radio reports that Manning had been seen slipping into training camp on Monday afternoon.


Around 2008 Training Camp, there has been no sightings of the Colts' most-high profile player.

Peyton Manning's not throwing passes. And he's not running drills.

But Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy said fans and observers shouldn't be fooled.

Manning is very, very present.

Read Full Story here at Colts.com

Update: August 18, 2008
Manning could be practicing next week

Update: August 20, 2008
Manning may not be ready for firts game against The Bears


Colts activate Peyton Manning

 Manning has been activated from the PUP list Tuesday

More than a month after having knee surgery and enduring weeks of rampant speculation about whether the injury was worse than first feared, two-time league MVP Peyton Manning finally provided his doubters with one emphatic answer Tuesday: He's back, right on schedule.

But activating Manning doesn't necessarily mean he will start the season opener, Sept. 7 against Chicago.

"I'm not really doing predictions at this point," Manning said. "I hope to be ready, and I certainly don't want to create this dramatic announcement. I think I will do some parts of practice today and tomorrow and I may even dress for (Thursday's) game though I won't play. We'll do a short practice Monday, and then, hopefully, I'll be full go Wednesday."

But team now is without Saturday after knee injury

Jeff Saturday left Sunday night's preseason loss to Buffalo with an injury to his right knee. He said after the game he might have damaged his medial collateral ligament, but results of a magnetic resonance imaging test were not available Monday.

  Seventh-round pick Jamey Richard might be used as the starter if Saturday can't play.

The good news is Saturday is not done for 2008, but this is yet another ANNOYING injury for the Colts. Fortunately, the Colts have a strong stable of good centers

Complicating matters is the status of Ryan Lilja and Mike Pollak. Lilja, the starting left guard, has yet to practice after undergoing offseason knee surgery. Pollak, the team's second-round draft pick, missed the Bills game after injuring his right knee in practice last week.

If Saturday, Lilja and Pollak are at least temporarily out of the mix, the line might consist of Tony Ugoh at left tackle, Charlie Johnson at left guard, Justice at center, Dan Federkeil at right guard and Ryan Diem at right tackle.

Manning wanted to keep 2nd surgery from opponents

 Peyton Manning kept quiet about his second knee surgery for one reason: He thought it would give opponents an advantage. The two-time league MVP answered questions about the surgery for the first time publicly Wednesday, two days after coach Tony Dungy confirmed Manning needed two surgeries to clear the bursa sac infection in his left knee.

"The reason I just didn't really confirm or deny it the first time was I just didn't really want the Bears to know they were playing against a guy that was four weeks off of surgery," he said. "I know if I was playing against a corner that was four weeks off of surgery, I would definitely test out how good that surgery was in a game. So I just didn't think it was fair to reveal that information."

Manning continues to insist it is irrelevant now that he has produced his two best games of the season. A week ago, he helped orchestrate a remarkable comeback at Houston, rallying from 17 points down with less than 5 minutes to go, and then threw for three touchdowns in Sunday's 31-3 victory over Baltimore.

The reward for beating the Ravens was Manning's first AFC player of the week award since Dec. 2, 2007.

But for weeks, Manning declined to answer persistent rumors about a second surgery. Then last Friday, during a TV production meeting, Manning confirmed it.

On Monday, for the first time the Colts also acknowledged Manning had undergone a second surgical procedure. Because Manning usually speaks to reporters on Wednesdays and after games, he was not available for interviews.

The questions have not dissipated.

Dungy was asked Wednesday to explain why the team did not provide details earlier.

"I don't know, that's something you'd probably have to ask organization," he said.

That question-and-answer prompted Craig Kelley, Colts vice president of public relations, to say the team never denied it.

Clearly, though, the injury has been big news since the Colts announced July 14 that Manning needed surgery.

The surgery was the second biggest story during training camp, exceeded only by Brett Favre's summer soap opera in Green Bay. Even Manning, who has never missed an NFL start and has only missed one career play because of injury, acknowledges the Favre saga took some of the spotlight off his recovery.

But when Favre was traded to the Jets, Manning's absence moved to center stage.

He didn't return until Aug. 26, didn't play in his first game until the regular-season opener against Chicago, and spent the first month of the season trying to get that precision timing down with his receivers.

Sunday was the first time Manning looked like himself, hitting receivers in stride and hooking up on deep balls.

"You have to disclose most things, but I do think when it comes to protecting a player and not giving the opponent any unfair advantage besides what you're required to reveal, that was the whole reason for that," Manning said. "That was what I wanted to do."

Manning, the perfectionist, still isn't satisfied.

Despite the dramatic improvement Indy (3-2) showed against the league's top defense, Manning believes the Colts can improve in a few areas. They had 11 penalties, one of which cost Manning a fourth touchdown pass and his first 300-yard game of the season, and they still ran for only 76 yards.

Plus, Manning continues to recover from the operations that may have been blamed for his uncharacteristic slow start. Others don't see it quite the same way.

"I think he's responded very well," Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy said. "I think that was very evident in the Baltimore game. You see the comfort and timing, and the timing is coming back."

As for Manning, he wants to be finished talking about the knee.

"I was just trying to not give them any type of advantage, whether they change their blitzes or what not," Manning said. "I didn't want to keep it from anybody, and it didn't necessarily have to be a secret. That was just the whole reasoning for it."

 


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